Unusual British Sabre

Will
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Re: Unusual British Sabre

Post by Will » Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:21 pm

I did see this at auction, we don't see many marked so well. I find 800 or so fine water paper can high light the etching when used lightly over it.
Would the sword date to 1830's or earlier?

Bryce
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Re: Unusual British Sabre

Post by Bryce » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:35 pm

G'day Will,
It is maker marked to George S Reddell 236 Picadilly London. He was at this address around 1813-1818.
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Bryce

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Re: Unusual British Sabre

Post by Bryce » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:22 pm

Another possible contender is Charles O'Haggerty. He neatly side-stepped Waterloo by joining the 60th Regiment of Foot in February 1815.

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Re: Unusual British Sabre

Post by Peter Jones » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:05 pm

Bryce,

I wonder if the initials E H belong to Major Edward Hodge who was sadly killed in the cavalry action at Genappe on the 17th of June, 1815?

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Peter

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Re: Unusual British Sabre

Post by Bryce » Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:49 pm

G'day Peter,
It is possible. I need to take the sword out into the sun and get better photos to determine if the first initial is a C or E. The middle initial(s) on the sword is very strange looking. In the army lists, Hodge isn't recorded as having a middle name. Generally when a middle initial is etched on a sword, it is also recorded in the army lists, so I think it is unlikely to be Hodge.
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Bryce

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Re: Unusual British Sabre

Post by Will » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:57 am

I have in the past used a photo and with editing changed the contrast, brightness etc until I could make out the initials. I have a Macbook Air that has the editing and it is simple to do.
As early as 1815? After so long you tend to think you remember things when you don't and my references are sitting close by. Time to read some sword references again to freshen up. I'm used to seeing later pipe backs so I assume all are later when in fact they are not?

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Re: Unusual British Sabre

Post by Bryce » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:42 am

G’day Will,
You had better reread Richard’s book. To be honest, I wasn’t convinced that many of these swords were made before 1815 either, until I acquired the sword that started this thread. The research that followed confirmed Richard’s observations that these swords became very common after about 1812.
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Bryce

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Re: Unusual British Sabre

Post by Will » Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:04 pm

Hello Bryce I'll have to do that. I can't recall all the swords with provenance I have!

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Re: Unusual British Sabre

Post by Bryce » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:03 pm

G'day Guys,
My latest thinking is the initials are actually EJH. No luck tracking down an officer in the 7th with these initials. The closest is Edward Hodge, but I haven't found any evidence that he had a middle initial J. Curse the Georgians and their fancy writing!

Here is another set of initials on a similar sword by the same maker in the same time period. These are HAP.

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Bryce
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Re: Unusual British Sabre

Post by Bryce » Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:24 am

I think I have found my man. Charles John Hill, Cornet September 1816. Not the result I was hoping for.
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