Myths about British Swords!

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Re: Myths about British Swords!

Postby MikeShowers » Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:23 pm

Robert G. Wale went on to join the Militia (Cambridge) as a Lt. Col. and later Colonel so maybe the brass scabbard came from that part of his career.
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Re: Myths about British Swords!

Postby Bryce » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:46 pm

G'day Mike,

That is very possible.

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Re: Myths about British Swords!

Postby Matt Easton » Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:16 am

MikeShowers wrote:Robert G. Wale went on to join the Militia (Cambridge) as a Lt. Col. and later Colonel so maybe the brass scabbard came from that part of his career.
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Glad someone else did the leg work - it was my first guess that he joined the militia and went on to higher rank and I was just about to go and search! Thanks Mike.
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Re: Myths about British Swords!

Postby Richard » Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:50 pm

Not so much a myth but more a mistake : the M1833 Italian mounted artillery sabre frequently described as a P1788 British light cavalry sabre
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Re: Myths about British Swords!

Postby sword335 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:14 pm

Yes, and the one Richard illustrates is coming up in an auction next week. There is probably one in a sale somewhere every month. The’re worth £100 - 200 and sometimes make three or four times that. There must be a lot of potentially disappointed collectors out there but hopefully none here.

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Re: Myths about British Swords!

Postby Matt Easton » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:34 pm

Indeed! Similarly, there are a lot of Spanish and Portuguese (British-made for export) 1821 pattern light cavalry swords which get identified as British examples. Very different value, different grip and different scabbard.
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Re: Myths about British Swords!

Postby Joseph08 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:52 am

According to my limited knowledge, Brass Scabbards are for majors.
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Re: Myths about British Swords!

Postby Will Mathieson » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:05 pm

The 1833 Italian has a slot in the guard below the finial and the grip and pommel are not the same contour as British 1788 swords. If it looks too good to be true, look again.
The 1860 Italian cavalry sword as an almost identical scabbard to the British 1853p except that the scabbard bands are more closely spaced.
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