Sword Point Names

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Sword Point Names

Postby Bryce » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:07 am

G'day Guys,

When you look at sword descriptions on the internet, there doesn't seem to be a lot of consistency when it comes to describing the points. I think there are some accepted conventions amongst the sword and knife community, but I have noticed there seems to be a lot of confusion around the terms "quill-point" and "clipped". Also, there are some sword points that don't fit neatly into any accepted category.


Below is a shot of my 1796 heavy cavalry officer collection showing most of the commonly encountered points.


From Top to Bottom:

1. Quill-point
2. Conventional pipe-back. I guess you could call it a spear point.
3. Intermediate quill-point, but also could be called a clipped point.
4. Hatchet point modified to a sort of spear point
5. Hatchet point.

The next photo is what I would call a "clipped point"

Than there is the Osborn and Gunby variant blade. I have seen this point sometimes referred to as a clipped point.

What do you guys think?

Cheers,
Bryce
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Re: Sword Point Names

Postby Will Mathieson » Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:37 am

Many variations of a sword point depending on fullering, curvature and false edge. The quill point alone has a few variations. Spear pointing a blade has different results depending on the blade profile.
In this photo the false edge on the clip point is sharpened.
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Re: Sword Point Names

Postby Bryce » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:33 pm

G'day Guys,

I realized I have made a mistake in my original post above. Sword number 3 isn't an intermediate quill-point. It is better described as a transitional quill-point as it isn't a quill-point at all.

What defines a british, quill-point sword?

1. It has a pipe back blade.
2. It has a large, raised false edge or yelman.
3. Along the length of blade tip with the false edge, the pipe back has been modified into a reinforcing rib or "fin".
4.Towards the tip, the width of the false edge above the rib, exceeds the width of the true edge below the rib.

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Bryce
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Re: Sword Point Names

Postby Richard » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:50 am

Hi Bryce
I'm afraid that most terms used by modern students and collectors are relative. Below is an extract from an article entitled 'A multinlingual glossary for European swords' by Robert Dohrenwend that appeared in Arms Collecting Vol. 36 No. 1 (February 1998). At that time, the term 'quill point' had not yet been invented ....
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