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Re: Auction news

Postby Will Mathieson » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:28 am

Now I don't think I would purchase a sword without provenance either to an officer or regimentally marked. Regimental specific trooper patterns an exception.

Here is a horse bit from an eBay auction, an interesting Indian cavalry one to H.H. The Guikowars Cavalry. Can't seem to find much info about them post mutiny period which I assume this is from. Interesting scimitar above the intertwined initials.
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Re: Auction news

Postby andrewDeeley » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:49 am

out of interest does anyone know the collector behind the lots for sale with Morphys?

I believe POW sword has been withdrawn.

Did anyone else from the forum get anything from the morphys sale?
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Re: Auction news

Postby Richard » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:51 pm

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I believe we have discussed this subject before: I am in touch with a collector in Wales who has been putting his collection up for sale at recent auctions run by Lawrence's of Crewkerne. He now tells me that another batch of his swords is about to go to that venue including one that members may be interested in: an 1821 HC officer's sword presented (I think) by an Artillery officer to his brother, a Cavalry Officer (please don't ask me for names - I can't remember). Anyway, the interesting thing about it is that it has a prayer (or psalm) etched down the blade - something I have never come across before.

Keep a lookout those who may be interested.

Richard.

PS, if anyone wants to make a private offer, I think he wants £2500-£3000. I can try put you in contact but you have to let me know today i.e. 2 Oct 2017
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Re: Auction news

Postby Will Mathieson » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:11 am

Lloyds Patriotic sword certificate. This may be of value to a collector that has this Lloyds sword

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auct ... image-link
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Re: Auction news

Postby sword335 » Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:24 pm

The owner of the sword contacted the Lloyds Sword website just a couple of weeks ago with a question about restoration and has been made aware of the sale. It would be a great shame if he let the opportunity to reunite the sword and certificate slip by.

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Re: Auction news

Postby Will Mathieson » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:07 pm

Auction yesterday had a 1796 HC troopers sword less scabbard marked to the Scots Greys. I quit bidding before it went to 1400 GBP !

The marking had the 16 number that may relate to 1816.
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Re: Auction news

Postby Richard » Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:42 pm

Hi Will

Scots Greys doubles the price ....

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Re: Auction news

Postby Will Mathieson » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:38 am

Hi Richard double the price seems to be the case.
There is historical value to swords having provenance and/or high end made swords ie: gilt and blued blades seem to command some of the highest prices.
The four swords you pictured have the best of both worlds.
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Re: Auction news

Postby Bryce » Tue May 01, 2018 8:45 pm

G'day Guys,

An Osborn and Gunby variant officer's 1796 sold at auction last night. Anybody here get it?

Cheers,
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Re: Auction news

Postby Will Mathieson » Wed May 02, 2018 12:08 am

I didn't see it but if the main photo was only the hilt it's easy to bypass it.

I recently won this sword: https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auct ... b30008ccca

So far I've drawn a blank with the initials JHR. I thought the date of 1854 would have made it easy! I was thinking Crimea but with the leather grip possibly British India.

Any help with the initials would be appreciated.
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Re: Auction news

Postby Bryce » Wed May 02, 2018 12:52 am

G'day Will,

I think the initials could be JHR or THR. Had a quick look in the 1855 army list and came up with 8 contenders. None of them seemed to fit as not cavalry or artillery. Without a clue to the regiment it is a big ask unfortunately. The etching looks nice and very similar in style to my pre-numbering Wilkinson.

I wonder what led the auctioneer to describe it as fencible?

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Re: Auction news

Postby MikeShowers » Fri May 04, 2018 2:25 am

Will Mathieson wrote:I didn't see it but if the main photo was only the hilt it's easy to bypass it.

I recently won this sword: https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auct ... b30008ccca

So far I've drawn a blank with the initials JHR. I thought the date of 1854 would have made it easy! I was thinking Crimea but with the leather grip possibly British India.

Any help with the initials would be appreciated.


Will,
A quick look through the list of HEIC cadets (if you haven't already looked there) and we have: James Hales Reid, James Henry Reid, John Henry Reynolds, John Hewetson Reynolds, John Howard Rice and James Henry Ruding. I may have missed a few and have no idea in what years they passed out but it might get you some possibilities.
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Re: Auction news

Postby Will Mathieson » Fri May 04, 2018 11:54 am

Thanks Mike I'll start looking there and pause where I am now.
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Re: Auction news

Postby MikeShowers » Fri May 04, 2018 2:39 pm

Will Mathieson wrote:Thanks Mike I'll start looking there and pause where I am now.

Here is the link to the list: http://isp.ans.com.au/~rampais/genelogy ... adfram.htm
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Re: Auction news

Postby Will Mathieson » Wed May 09, 2018 3:30 am

Thanks Mike and please excuse my late response as my internet was not working until today.
I also received the sword today, 34 3/16" long blade weighs 1 lb 11 oz and scabbard 1 lb 2 oz.
A good light weight sword in full size. Original leather covered grip with three fine twist wires, the same as found on patent hilt swords.
The hilt is also fairly light construction, the bars not as thick as expected. Overall a good light and fast sword.
I like the etched "1854" I think the hand crafted look of it gives it a real aged appearance and is the beginning of the Crimea War although most likely owned by a British officer serving in India. Some did make it over to the Crimea..
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Re: Auction news

Postby Matt Easton » Thu May 31, 2018 9:55 pm

Bryce wrote:G'day Guys,

An Osborn and Gunby variant officer's 1796 sold at auction last night. Anybody here get it?


Hi Bryce,
Yes I got it. I had considered keeping it, but I've kept a lot of stuff recently, so it's now listed for sale on my website.
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