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Postby hargrove999 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:27 pm

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Did anyone else see the Royal Welsh Fusiliers sword that was sold at McTears in Glasgow last night. I had a bid but was some way under the £550 plus buyers premium. It was in fairly ropey condition and the chape is a modern replacement. Nevertheless a rare sword.
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Re: Auction news

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Re: Auction news

Postby David C » Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:03 pm

Yes I saw that one, if I was still collecting army swords I'd have been quite tempted.
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Re: Auction news

Postby hargrove999 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:00 pm

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Dreweatts Bristol 6th March

An Exceptional and Fine Gilt Mounted Anglo-Indian Sabre Made for Lord Evelyn Stuart, Colonel in His Majesty's Army, Circa 1780-1800, with a 80cm curved hollow-ground blade, back-edged towards the clip-point, etched with panels, inscribed 'Sacred To H ---A Victory & Glory' gilt hilt comprising a pair of short quillons chiselled with tiger heads on the terminals, a pair of langets decorated with foliage and tiger heads, with stylised tiger-head pommel, with ruby eyes and open mouth bearing teeth and tongue, with chained loop to quillon end, in its engraved gilt brass covered wooden scabbard, with inscribed 3cm half-moon ivory tag inscribed in ink 'Lord Evelyn Stuart - Colonel in H.M. Army' 96cm overall.
Provenance: Colonel Lord Evelyn Stuart (7 th May 1773 - 16th August 1842), second son of John Stuart, 1st Marquess of Bute, son of Prime Minister John Stuart, 3rd Earl of Bute, thence by descent.

As Chris Allen pointed out to me this afternoon young Stuart did ever so well to be presented with this sabre at the age of 7 !
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Postby hargrove999 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:04 pm

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Postby hargrove999 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:04 pm

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Re: Auction news

Postby Richard » Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:27 am

I missed that Royal Welch Fusiliers sword. I might have had a go even though its not my area (cavalry) and not in great nick - its simply a very nice sword. Its strange what comes up sometimes in these small general auction houses - I bought this 1788 Gill a couple of weeks ago from Dickins Auctioneers in the middle of Buckinghamshire. The "auction room" was literally a converted cow-shed down a farm track in the middle of nowhere (and just got out in time - 2 hours later the whole area was paralysed by snow)
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Re: Auction news

Postby sword335 » Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:31 pm

A little while age on the old forum Richard mentioned a collection of swords coming up for sale in Bonhams. I don't intend to use this Forum to advertise Bonhams sales but as this has already been mentioned and is quite exciting I thought I would give you all a few details.

The collection is coming from overseas. It consists of some militaria, a few pistols and around four hundred British military swords. Yes, that's right 400 swords !! They are all excellent quality pieces in very good or better condition from what Ihave seen from the photos. I'll give a bit more info once they have arrived and there will be samples on show at the London Arms Fair at the end of April.

I've attached some general shots just to give you all an idea of what's to come and how much work I've got to do !

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Postby Rob O'Reilly » Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:55 pm

chris,

Please tell me this isn't another Canadian collection going overseas, forever lost to me??? The Barauskas sale was painful enough, given that all we were able to preserve for the Bonhams sale in Toronto were some of the helmets.

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sword335 wrote:A little while age on the old forum Richard mentioned a collection of swords coming up for sale in Bonhams. I don't intend to use this Forum to advertise Bonhams sales but as this has already been mentioned and is quite exciting I thought I would give you all a few details.

The collection is coming from overseas. It consists of some militaria, a few pistols and around four hundred British military swords. Yes, that's right 400 swords !! They are all excellent quality pieces in very good or better condition from what Ihave seen from the photos. I'll give a bit more info once they have arrived and there will be samples on show at the London Arms Fair at the end of April.

I've attached some general shots just to give you all an idea of what's to come and how much work I've got to do !

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Postby Richard » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:01 pm

sword335 wrote:A little while age on the old forum Richard mentioned a collection of swords coming up for sale in Bonhams. I don't intend to use this Forum to advertise Bonhams sales but as this has already been mentioned and is quite exciting I thought I would give you all a few details.

The collection is coming from overseas. It consists of some militaria, a few pistols and around four hundred British military swords. Yes, that's right 400 swords !! They are all excellent quality pieces in very good or better condition from what Ihave seen from the photos. I'll give a bit more info once they have arrived and there will be samples on show at the London Arms Fair at the end of April.

I've attached some general shots just to give you all an idea of what's to come and how much work I've got to do !

Chris.


Chris

I'm absolutely sure nobody minds you advertising Bonhams' sales! Thanks for the preview, it seems like collectors of mamelukes and Victorian swords are going to have a field day!

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Re: Auction news

Postby Brimage » Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:10 pm

Hi Chris
Thank you so much for the advance notice. I am so glad I have just renewed my subscriptions to Bonhams catalogues, although sadly they usually arrive after the auction. I now put an alert in outlook to remind me to look on line just in case. I do hope we can bring some of them to the colony’s here in Australia. If you ever have advance pictures please do not hesitate to post. Can you tell us what sale they will be in?

Cheers Cathey and Rex
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Re: Auction news

Postby hargrove999 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:45 pm

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David Lay The Penzance Auction House, Alverton, Penzance is selling this sword on 1st March: A late 18th/early 19th century cavalry officer`s sabre, possibly British, the curved single edged blade with engraved decoration on both sides, areas of worn gilding, the angled guard and ivory scaled grip with a lion`s head cap, length 93cm (lacks scabbard).
Unusual hilt design - have others seen the like of this before ?
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Postby hargrove999 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:52 pm

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And at George Kidner on 15th March estimated at £300-£500:

A 19th Century naval officer`s sword, slender double edged blade 30 1/2 in., and of flattened diamond section, with etched decoration and retaining traces of blueing and gilt; good quality gilt and relief decorated stirrup hilt, knuckle bow entwined with foliage, back quillon with scroll terminal, langets with crowned fouled anchors, lion head pommel with mane extending down the back strap, lacks scabbard.
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Postby Richard » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:09 am

hargrove999 wrote:
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David Lay The Penzance Auction House, Alverton, Penzance is selling this sword on 1st March: A late 18th/early 19th century cavalry officer`s sabre, possibly British, the curved single edged blade with engraved decoration on both sides, areas of worn gilding, the angled guard and ivory scaled grip with a lion`s head cap, length 93cm (lacks scabbard).
Unusual hilt design - have others seen the like of this before ?


Paul
I don't think I ever seen another like this before. But for the blade length, I would have taken it for infantry rather than cavalry.
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Postby David C » Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:07 am

The dress 1805 is lovely, a bit too pretty for my taste although it is tempting....  I have more pics from GK if anyone is interested the bottom third of the blade is quite worn. 
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Re: Auction news

Postby David C » Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:24 am

Some more Royal Welch have turned up !
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Lots 196 & 197
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Postby Richard » Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:07 pm

David C wrote:Some more Royal Welch have turned up !
http://www.abbottsauctionrooms.co.uk
Lots 196 & 197


Here's the catlogue picture. I quite fancy 197
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Re: Auction news

Postby Richard » Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:14 pm

And here's another interesting one coming up at Feildings Auctioneers on 10 March - a small lightwieight 1796 disc-hilt. There's something very similar in Lyle's Arms & Armour Review 1980, page 103 - blade etched G T Williams, Lieutenant in the Mudford (Somerset) Troop of Yeomanry Cavalry 1831
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Postby Richard » Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:18 pm

Richard wrote:
David C wrote:Some more Royal Welch have turned up !
http://www.abbottsauctionrooms.co.uk
Lots 196 & 197


Here's the catlogue picture. I quite fancy 197


The thought of course now occurs to me - did these 3 swords all belong to the same person? Oh dear, that means they shouldn't be separated
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Postby Richard » Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:04 pm



A nice 10th Hussars officer in there.
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Postby David C » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:32 am

So who in the 10th served as an aide on the General Staff ?
Does the Army list indicate brevet the ranks? That might be a clue, I doubt they would serve on the GS without one
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Re: Auction news

Postby Richard » Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:24 pm

David C wrote:So who in the 10th served as an aide on the General Staff ?
Does the Army list indicate brevet the ranks? That might be a clue, I doubt they would serve on the GS without one


Captain John Gurwood was serving as ADC to Lt. Gen. Sir Henry Clinton at Waterloo. But the sword is not that of a staff officer. All 10th Hussars officers carried these swords in the period 1807 - 1821. Here is the one in the Raglan sale.
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Re: Auction news

Postby Rob O'Reilly » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:43 am

Richard wrote:Captain John Gurwood was serving as ADC to Lt. Gen. Sir Henry Clinton at Waterloo. But the sword is not that of a staff officer. All 10th Hussars officers carried these swords in the period 1807 - 1821. Here is the one in the Raglan sale.


Richard,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this sword different, in that it has a General Officer's rank insignia incorporated in to the POW feathers?

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