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Re: Auction news

Postby Gordons Horse » Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:32 pm

As a matter of interest, did anyone notice the Wilkinson sword at Amersham's a week or so back; it had a special pattern blade etched with two sets of initials, one dated 1881 and the hilt was also very unusual having a 5-bar or double basket guard, with a special pattern grip and pommel.
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Re: Auction news

Postby Richard » Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:04 am

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I missed the sword at auction but wasn't M D Long offering something like this during the course of last week? I assume Bob Hedger must have bought it.

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Re: Auction news

Postby Matt Easton » Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:33 pm

Yes, MD Long bought it. I considered bidding, but it had a broken blade (shortened, I guess by about 3 inches) and was a bit late for me anyway.
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Re: Auction news

Postby Gordons Horse » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:13 am

Despite the relatively late date and what appeared to be damage at the point end, I was intrigued by the unusual nature of the blade, and certainly not a type I have seen before, also quite a rare combination of features to the hilt. I've seen one other sword with a 5-bar hilt however, it had a normal grip and back-piece, and the sword was originally owned by a Surgeon in the Madras Army.

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Re: Auction news

Postby Matt Easton » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:32 am

Hi Gordon,
Yes the blade on this one seems to be modelled on an 18th century backsword or dragoon sword, with the long ricasso and secondary fuller at the spine. It might be interesting to send off for the proof book entry, just to find out who ordered it.
Re. the 5 bar hilt, I have seen another, dated to 1863 by Wilkinson and with a 'Russian' type blade, but I didn't win it and I don't know who did. I didn't record the number sadly!
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Re: Auction news

Postby Richard » Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:40 am

Very rare 1848 pattern 2nd Life Guards sword on ebay at the moment - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221379110902? ... 1423.l2649
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Re: Auction news

Postby Richard » Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:31 am

Richard wrote:Very rare 1848 pattern 2nd Life Guards sword on ebay at the moment - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221379110902? ... 1423.l2649


I'm astonished that it sold for only £733!
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Re: Auction news

Postby Rob O'Reilly » Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:59 pm

Meant to bid, however got distracted and forgot. Damn!
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Re: Auction news

Postby Richard » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:25 pm

I have just noticed an interesting sword coming up for sale at C&T Auctioneers, Kent on 25 June : lot 317 described as a 1796 pattern sword but in fact it is the later East India Company made sword marked MOLE on back edge of blade and with EIC inspection stamp of a script F over the number 4 (corresponding to 1842-43.
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Re: Auction news

Postby Gordons Horse » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:42 pm

Hi Richard,

Any idea of the result on the EIC marked 1796 type.

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Re: Auction news

Postby Richard » Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:22 am

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£200 hammer price.

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Re: Auction news

Postby Richard » Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:56 am

An unusual sword coming up for sale on 13 August - http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/aucti ... eb00ab5a28

Described as an 'Egyptian officer's sword, no doubt on account of the Sphinx and crescent moons on the blade. In fact, I used to own this back in 2001 and I was never quite sure myself as to its origin. There is no maker's name or any other indication of country. The blue and gilt blade decoration has a British flavour as does the scabbard, but overall it just does not feel British. But quite a nice sword anyway. I'm not sure how it ended up on the Isle of Wight ...

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Re: Auction news

Postby alan campbell » Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:19 am

Out of curiosity, did any member of the forum win this yesterday? I was the underbidder ( :cry: ) - it would be nice to think that it went to a good home! Hammer price was £2700.
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Re: Auction news

Postby Richard » Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:46 am

I am staggered that this patently obvious fake has reached US$ 787 on ebay. The false ageing is truly awful. The seller uses a lot of weasel words to abrogate any responsibility but I'm sure he must know what he is selling. Somebody will be very disappointed.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231837090659? ... EBIDX%3AIT
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Re: Auction news

Postby Will Mathieson » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:57 pm

Sometimes it is possible to find the buyer of the sword in the feedback section. When he leaves feedback to the seller you may get his eBay name and contact him letting him know he's been robbed. Many do not realize their mistake nor will their friends who see the sword.
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Re: Auction news

Postby Rob O'Reilly » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:31 pm

I contacted the seller immediately after it was listed, however he obviously is knowingly selling a fake. Unfortunately reporting it as such to eBay has not affected the listing either.

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Re: Auction news

Postby sword335 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:52 pm

He is also selling a repro five ball naval dirk. There is an identical one coming up in a sale at Golding Young and Mawer with "provenance" !
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Re: Auction news

Postby Will Mathieson » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:56 am

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ANTIQUE-SCOTT ... 1735467057

another sold cheap aged copy, note the arc welding. I see the buyers are not listed so no contact can be made. I'm sure he would not be impressed with the cheap leather wrap, arc welds etc. $10 worth of scrap.

Easy to age just throw outside in garden and later brush off, clean up and presto, pitting and ageing. Just list on eBay for quick profit.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ANTIQUE-MEDIE ... 1735451061 This one a total joke with arc welding in several places and claiming to be 1600's period.

and very recent manufacture: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ANTIQUE-VERY- ... 1700202978
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Re: Auction news

Postby Richard » Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:11 am

Well that's ebay for you - what can you do ....
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Re: Auction news

Postby Will Mathieson » Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:11 pm

Never ending: http://www.ebay.com/itm/British-Empire- ... SwKtVWvj9z

The silver solder work and file marks shows amateur work.
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Re: Auction news

Postby Will Mathieson » Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:39 am

I see a small amount of the Gary Bates sword collection is up for auction again: https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/23564/lot/71/
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Re: Auction news

Postby Richard » Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:04 am

Interesting sword coming up at Wallis's Sale on 10 October - estimate £4000-£6000. Anyone care to comment?
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Re: Auction news

Postby MikeShowers » Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:22 pm

Well, the etching certainly doesn't look to be contemporary with the sword, or even the 19th century. Unless there is something else linking it to R.Portal I'd be suspicious of the attribution.
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Re: Auction news

Postby Bryce » Mon Oct 03, 2016 12:46 am

Famous Light Brigade charger.

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Re: Auction news

Postby Will Mathieson » Mon Oct 03, 2016 12:51 am

The etchings background exhibits no corrosion as the surrounding blade does. Etched to deceive? "Brevet major" appears to be modern fonts.
Mixing authentic Crimea items with fakes at auction is a strategy. Many decades have passed in which this could have been added.
The other mameluke listed of Major General Alexander Low has etching written that appears contemporary. Each line is off centre to the others and none are centred between the floral etching on either side.
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