Fakes

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Re: Fakes

Post by Chris A » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:14 pm

O.K. Not every auctioneer can know about swords but when they are told that something is a fake they should react. Let’s see if anything happens..

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Re: Fakes

Post by Will » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:06 pm

Auctioneers also must be careful that the complaint is not aimed at lowering the perceived value of an item. They do not know who is calling or emailing them. Can only lead a horse to water. Most likely all of us here have been stung once or more times and new collectors cannot assume a mine field free of mines.

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Re: Fakes

Post by Ben Bevan » Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:00 pm

The Auctioneers have just made an addition to the description stating ‘it has been pointed out that this sword is possibly a reproduction item’, with a further caveat to potential buyers. I suppose that will have to suffice!

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Re: Fakes

Post by Chris A » Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:38 pm

I think that’s fair enough. As Will says, it could have been someone trying to get the price reduced. People will now be alerted and it’s up to them to check it out.

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Re: Fakes

Post by Richard » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:29 am

Here's a really obvious fake shortly coming up at auction (photos are a little small I'm afraid)
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Re: Fakes

Post by Juan J. Perez » Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:17 pm

Hello, Richard.

Do you think this is an original sword, 'enhanced' with the spurious attribution, or a newly-made replica, engraved and then aged? If the second possibility is the true one, I am impressed with the result of aging itself... quite convincing, at least judging from those tiny pictures.

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Re: Fakes

Post by Richard » Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:50 pm

Hi Juan
I believe the sword itself might be genuine. However, the etching is certainly not - another example undertaken by using acid-resistant Letraset, probably in 1980s or 1990s.
Here is the link to the auction so you can see better photos (lot 327):

https://www.cowanauctions.com/auction/1 ... rmsPremier

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Re: Fakes

Post by Chris A » Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:38 pm

Once again the faker hasn’t done any research. There was no 1st Battalion of the Gordon Highlanders in the 1850’s. They were known as the 92nd Highlanders and what’s more, they never saw service in the Crimea !
The sword looks like a 1798 pattern with a short (or shortened ) blade.
Another sword ruined.

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Re: Fakes

Post by Will » Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:39 pm

Just what I thought when I saw that one online. Original sword with shortened blade, would be worth less than a full length blade so just etch something onto the blade to increase its value. You will find a faked sword even in old collections.

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Re: Fakes

Post by Richard » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:45 pm

Chris A wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:38 pm
Once again the faker hasn’t done any research. There was no 1st Battalion of the Gordon Highlanders in the 1850’s. They were known as the 92nd Highlanders and what’s more, they never saw service in the Crimea !
The sword looks like a 1798 pattern with a short (or shortened ) blade.
Another sword ruined.

Chris.
I think we know who the faker is and research is not his forte ....

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