Fakes

Will
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Re: Fakes

Post by Will » Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:31 pm

I remember seeing this one in the past or it could be one of many?https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Antique-Cavalry ... SwT9Nd31P9

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Re: Fakes

Post by paulwillcocks » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:14 pm

Oh no ! yes they crop up all the time in the UK at provincial auctions. Usually dont sell at £300-500. I believe they were made by World Wide Arms in the 1970's. To a novice from photographs they can look convincing. Seems like a load of bidders have been conned.

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Re: Fakes

Post by Richard » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:22 pm

Here it is for future reference. This is not one that’s ever been on my radar. Pretty convincing I would say.
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Re: Fakes

Post by Chris A » Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:01 am

Looks O.K. in the picture but not so good in the flesh. Horrible wire bound grip and the blade is an untempered piece of metal ! They have been around for quite a while so can be well aged by now.

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Re: Fakes

Post by Chris A » Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:18 pm

This sword is up to almost £1000 on eBay. I’ve seen Items before from this seller. He always says he is selling for someone else and just lists items but has no knowledge of dates etc. His other items are a mix of genuine and modern copies. The odd thing is he doesn’t seem to have any negative feedback which means there are a lot of misguided people out there.

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Re: Fakes

Post by Will » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:45 am

I believe sellers can alter the feedback. Mixing fakes with authentic pieces is an old trick to add credibility to the fakes. This guy has been in the business quite I while I would guess.

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Re: Fakes

Post by Chris A » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:20 am

I messaged him and said it was a modern piece. He replied and said was I sure ? An identical sword sold in Herman’s for around 1300 euros. I told him I was certain. They are Indian copies and have been appearing in the U.K. for a number of years now. I also said that I knew what I was talking about as I worked as a Consultant for a major London auction house.
Needless to say, I got no reply to that and it sold for 1300 U.S. that’s £989 !
Of course, as he says he just sells for other people he takes no responsibility and no returns !

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Re: Fakes

Post by Will » Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:53 pm

https://www.bygoneblades.com/buy-britis ... ards-sword

I really didn't think someone would try passing these off as authentic but here it is.

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